[Discussioni] [Fronte Internazionalista per la Liberazione del Tapiro <tapiro@kyuzz.org>] [HaCkmEeTiNg] http://canali.tiscalinet.it/tecnologia/200105/04/Windows.html

Leandro Noferini lnoferin@cybervalley.org
19 May 2001 13:19:35 +0200


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Ciao a tutti,

vi  allego  anche la  pagina  di the  register  che  ne parla.  Notare
comunque  che le  pagine "incriminate"  sono scomparse  dal  sito della
Microsoft.=20

Proprio anti-MS no, per=F2 a volte non perdiamo di vista chi =E8 il nostro
maggiore avversario!=20

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Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 09:49:43 +0200
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From: Fronte Internazionalista per la Liberazione del Tapiro <tapiro@kyuzz.org>
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MICROSOFT
Il Pc non usa Windows? Va denunciato
In cambio Redmond offrir=E0 premi e gadget

"Rivenditori, denunciate chi vuole un sistema senza Windows", =E8 l'origina=
le=20
trovata della Microsoft. Ogni segnalazione effettuata da parte dei=20
rivenditori Pc, sar=E0 inizialmente "ripagata" con punti, convertibili=20
successivamente in premi e gadget firmati Microsoft.
La pratica, che risulta essere abbastanza discutibile, impedirebbe di fatto=
=20
a qualsiasi utente di scegliere in piena libert=E0 quale sistema operativo=
=20
installare sulla propria macchina. Oltre all'Os della Microsoft, infatti,=20
ne esistono altri, spesso pi=F9 stabili e soprattutto totalmente gratuiti,=
=20
uno tra i pi=F9 noti potrebbe essere ad esempio Linux.
L'invito della Microsoft =E8 stato pubblicato, inizialmente, sulle pagine w=
eb=20
della societ=E0 stessa. Per paura di essere accusata di violare le leggi=20
dell'antitrust, per=F2, sembra aver preferito cambiare il sistema di=20
diffusione a favore del pi=F9 sicuro e discreto servizio di posta=20
elettronica. Secondo alcune fonti, infatti, la societ=E0 di Redmond sta=20
attualmente contattando produttori e rivenditori di tutto il mondo per=20
mezzo dell'e-mail.
Secondo quanto riportato su "The Register", un tabloid londinese, per tutti=
=20
i rivenditori che denunciano l'apparizione sul mercato di un Pc privo di=20
sistema operativo Windows vi sarebbero punti "fedelt=E0" convertibili in=20
premi. Con 250 punti, infatti, si ottengono 5 giochi Microsoft, con 500 i=20
giochi pi=F9 un orologio e con 1000 i giochi, l'orologio e una borsa.
Roberto Zonca
Link Utili
- The Register Tabloid londinese
- Microsoft Sito della societ=E0 di Redmond
- ZioBudda Sito di una tra le pi=F9 importanti comunit=E0 italiane dedicate=
 a=20
Linux
Leggi le altre notizie del canale TECNOLOGIA


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                              anyway, and Microsoft wants its OEMs to make =
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                              selling your customers Naked PCs leaves them =
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                              is - if you buy a PC without an operating    =
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                              system, how come this'll ruin your furniture =
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